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Found JellyFish
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:59 pm
by AriFeannor
He's been playing mohaa with other players,
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/731199321 some sort of tourny or match where the spectator streams with cham nades and old school model hack that's not chams to tell if someone is cheating easier like modern games. This is from that mohaa discord that Ryback(alphamac creator) helps run as well.
Re: Found JellyFish
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:41 pm
by Lostin
I don't understand. So was jelly caught cheating?
Re: Found JellyFish
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:34 pm
by AriFeannor
No, that's the specator who has hacks on to simulate how they stream modern games. In CSGO and Valorant, when you spectate a match it shows everyone and everything through the walls. It helps people understand what exactly is happening and helps detect cheaters as well. If a person was hacking, it helps to watch them with hacks on as well to fully understand what they could be seeing and see how they react. But I think its mainly to stream it as a modern game because that how modern FPS's do it with Tournament streams and such.
Re: Found JellyFish
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:21 pm
by Lostin
Well, cheats or hacks shouldn't be allowed even with spectating mode. It might be used as an excuse. It is pretty easy to catch cheaters with wallhack. I don't really think you need hacks to catch cheaters. Some servers have the ability to force a screenshot and will ban you. Unless you post those screenshots, you will stay banned.
Re: Found JellyFish
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:34 am
by AriFeannor
This isn't our server or anything. This is a private tournament/match, they can run it how they see fit. And like I said, the person in spec, the person streaming is modded out with modernized avatars, kill tags, name plates, and have hacks and cham nades to modernize mohaa for the newer generation of gamers. And it's easy to not have hacks in spec if you really want to watch someone, you just collect their demo and play the demo with hacks on, then you are not in any server while doing so. and its easy to catch hackers that are noobs, opposite with a seasoned hacker who lurks with the clean players.
Re: Found JellyFish
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:35 am
by RAPT(+)R
I've seen that channel before. One of the only ones I've found that broadcasts MoH:AA from time to time aside from myself and Mummy. The use of chams like that in spectate has been an admin practice since the very early days of MoH:AA. It's definitely much easier to catch someone cheating with those kind of tools.
It's nice to see there are still some tournaments going on.
Re: Found JellyFish
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:16 pm
by Lostin
AriFeannor wrote:This isn't our server or anything. This is a private tournament/match, they can run it how they see fit. And like I said, the person in spec, the person streaming is modded out with modernized avatars, kill tags, name plates, and have hacks and cham nades to modernize mohaa for the newer generation of gamers. And it's easy to not have hacks in spec if you really want to watch someone, you just collect their demo and play the demo with hacks on, then you are not in any server while doing so. and its easy to catch hackers that are noobs, opposite with a seasoned hacker who lurks with the clean players.
I know that. You have got a point. It might be easier to catch them with that way. But even advanced cheaters make mistakes. There are some servers i have seen where the alphamac is mandatory and if you aren't running it, you'll be kicked automatically. What do you think of applying this way in the scrim server?
Re: Found JellyFish
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:16 pm
by AriFeannor
We don't really have a scrim server anymore, but I can run it, but some people won't do it. I don't think it would be worth it, its not the best anticheat anways. We would end up annoying the people who aren't good at doing computer things as well as excluding the public people we could attract. Last time we had any push for people to use Alphamac was just met with a good number of people not even bothering. People who don't even hack would rather not play than use it.